What should a coach do about a bad call in favor of his team?

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Jul 19, 2014
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Madison, WI
DW and I disagree on a point, and I think this may be the very rare case where I am actually right.

We are watching a game, DD playing. Usually she pitches, but that game she was used as a utility player. By the end of the 3rd, she had already played 3B, SS CF and 1B. We were watching right behind the fence at 1B, close enough to talk to the 1B coaches on both teams.

OK, with one out, coach moves DD from CF to 1B. Runner on first, batter hits a fly shot to SS, runner advances, SS catches the ball, throws back to 1B long before the runner returns, clear out. Ump calls it safe. At the beginning of the next inning some of us were discussing the play with the 1B coach for the other team, he said, "right, she was out by a mile".

DD thinks the 1B ump for the other team should've told the ump his runner was out. I don't think a coach has the duty to argue against his own team, even for bad calls. The week before we got a bad call in our favor, and our coaches didn't argue the call (the coaches for the other team did, to no avail.)

So, who is right? DW who says the coach should correct the umpire for a bad call that favors his team, or me for saying that is not the coach's job?

Also, have any of you coaches ever argued against your own team, except in a friendly?
 
Jun 7, 2013
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When I get a favorable call as a coach I chalk it up to karma. By this I mean it is an evening out of a call that didn't go my way.

If you dispute the favorable call you are humiliating the umpire, which is very bad on many levels. So, ultimately, no good comes from this.

When a call goes against me I may try to "gently" make a point but accept it. If it goes my way, I accept it, too.
 
Feb 17, 2014
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Orlando, FL
I rarely argue a call. I go into every contest expecting that there will be a few or more bad calls and I hope that they will even each other out. I find that unless it is a rule interpretation arguing is a futile and often counter productive endeavor. Arguing with an umpire is worse than arguing with a cop, since at the end of the day a cop is accountable for their performance.
 
Oct 11, 2010
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Chicago, IL
I am not going to start the conversation if it is in our favor but I will chip in with an honest opinion if asked even if it is against us.
 
Oct 22, 2009
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PA
It's up to the other coach to appeal and ask for help. I stay out of it. I am sure there are times I have missed an opposing runner miss a base that was seen by the umpire. Is the other coach supposed to confess that his runner should be out?
 
Jun 27, 2011
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North Carolina
It's one of those things that is ruled by history and tradition of the sport.

In baseball/softball, it's not the coach's role and can be seen as showing up the umpire.

In tennis, it's considered sportsmanlike and not embarrassing to the umpire (or lines judge) at all.
 
Jun 18, 2013
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If it was a friendly with just a PU then I would help with the call. In a tournament game with multiple umpires then it is not my place and I would keep my mouth shut. I don't argue close calls either direction so I am certainly not going to help make one that goes against my team.
 
Sep 29, 2014
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If it was not a scrimmage then, just go with "the calls will all even out in the end"...even if not this game maybe the next.
 

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