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It is a different game. A baseball coach generally does not realize how fast that fastpitch is. You do not have time from 3rd and short to take an extra hop before you throw. Also what I have seen is that the baseball coach will want the pitcher to cover 1st on a bunt.
 

Cannonball

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There are instincts the baseball coach will never have. So you will be slower on decision-making/reacting, and may be so for years. Same as moving into any sport you did not play and grow up in. You have to be super humble, study a lot, and know some of the fundamentals are different, such as in baserunning, and you don't have time for all kinds of footwork in the infield. SO do your homework everyday and don't assume things. Rule 1: Do not argue over who covers first on a bunt in front of the kids with other coaches. (I have seen this and it makes my stomach hurt.) Rule 2: If you say secondary lead, the kids might look at you with a blank stare.

I recommend getting a former softball player on your coaching staff pronto.

PS The Candrea and Kobata videos are a must.

I coached baseball from the time I was very young until I was old. Won a few state championships, had one team win 64 games in a row and another team go 40-0 for a perfect season. (I was the hitting coach and Varsity Assistant Coach then.) At another school as HC, we won 4 straight regional, a few sectionals and this school had never won one before I got here. I got to coach baseball internationally in the former Soviet Union for our country. Some silly people in this area might tell you that I do pretty good as a softball coach. NEVER? I know, you were just kidding. You silly goose you.
 
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I was waiting for you cannonball. I knew you were a baseball coach and you can coach my dd anytime.
 
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Without a doubt. There is a learning curve. But to the good part of OILF's post, if he is humble and really wants to learn softball, he can do it quickly. I don't even remember how to play baseball. :D

But he will still never know what a female player with 1 game of playing experience knows. :)
 
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What is the most important things to teach girls at this age? Is it more important to teach and hone the fundamentals or worry about making double plays ect?
 
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If you truly learn the fundamentals you don't have to spend much time learning to turn a double play. Even at the "elite level" I am amazed how many players do not have proper throwing mechanics.
 
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What is the most important things to teach girls at this age? Is it more important to teach and hone the fundamentals or worry about making double plays ect?

Ahhhh. One of my favorite topics to cover with parents before the start of a new season, especially if there are girls who haven't played for me before. It does us zero good to teach girls how to turn a double play, what to do on a 1st and 3rd situation, the appropriate bag to throw to from the outfield on a fly, grounder, or grounder in the hole if the girl reached first base on an error. Fundamentals above ALL else. We can't turn 2 if my shortstop can't field and throw correctly.
 
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There are instincts the baseball coach will never have. So you will be slower on decision-making/reacting, and may be so for years. Same as moving into any sport you did not play and grow up in. You have to be super humble, study a lot, and know some of the fundamentals are different, such as in baserunning, and you don't have time for all kinds of footwork in the infield. SO do your homework everyday and don't assume things. Rule 1: Do not argue over who covers first on a bunt in front of the kids with other coaches. (I have seen this and it makes my stomach hurt.) Rule 2: If you say secondary lead, the kids might look at you with a blank stare.

I recommend getting a former softball player on your coaching staff pronto.

PS The Candrea and Kobata videos are a must.

Here is Candera's Bio.... hmmm did NOT play an inning of Softball...

Mike Candrea enters his 30th season as the head coach of the University of Arizona softball team in 2015 and under his guidance reaching the pinnacle should once again underscore a record of success almost unparalleled by any program in any sport at any level.

Candrea is one of the most respected coaches in the nation, with the accomplishments to supplement: eight national titles in 24 seasons, 21 trips to the Women’s College World Series in the last 25 seasons, 1,387 career victories, a mind-boggling career winning percentage of 80%, 52 All-Americans, four national players of the year and stewardship of Team USA to an Olympic gold medal, to name a few.

Candrea earned the 1,300th victory of his career in 2012 when Arizona defeated Utah 4-2 on April 11. Like many milestones before this, Candrea was the fastest coach in NCAA softball history to 1,300 wins. Only one other coach has eclipsed this mark, Margie Wright of Fresno State, who accomplished the feat in her 30th season, while Candrea did so in his 25th season of coaching.

The aforementioned gold medal came with his stint as the head coach of Team USA in 2004. His second Olympic squad took home the silver in 2008. Softball has since been erased from Olympic competition, but Candrea’s work in the sport’s final two Olympic years will not soon be forgotten. Under his tutelage in 2004, the team posted a perfect 9-0 record, outscoring its opponents 51-1 on its way to a gold medal in one of the most dominant team performances in Olympic history. In 2008, the team came just short of winning its fourth consecutive gold medal.

Since 1988, UA has won fewer than five postseason games just four times and has eclipsed the 50-win mark 17 times and won at least 33 games in the other years. No one talks about losing around Arizona softball, but even in lean times the Wildcats did not lose 25 games in any of the 29 seasons under Candrea’s watch. Avoiding a “down” year has been a trademark of Candrea’s program, and one not universally shared even among the game’s elite.

Candrea is not one to back down from a challenge. On a daily basis, he challenges his players, and when it comes to drawing up the schedule of opponents, his philosophy is no different. He builds schedules as tough as any in the country. A recent sampling shows years where Arizona won 30 games against NCAA Tournament-bound squads.

His teams’ victory totals of 67 in 1998, 66 wins in 1995, 65 victories in 2001, 64 victories in 1994 and 61 in 1997 are among the top 10 in the NCAA record books. Including a five-season stint as a junior college coach at Central Arizona, Candrea has a career record of 1,517-393-2. That computes to a phenomenal winning percent of .770.

That proficiency started at Arizona with the hiring of Candrea prior to the 1986 season, the school’s transition in Pacific West Conference play before the start of Pac-10 ball in 1987. UA finished 27-13-1 that first year, his second “worst” record to date. The following season, the Cats were 42-18 and qualified for their first of 28-straight NCAA postseason appearances.

Those early years marked the upswing in Candrea’s recruiting skill at the Division I level and by 1988, the team turned in a 54-18 record, made it to the Women’s College World Series for the first time and recorded two WCWS victories. That year, pitcher Teresa Cherry became Candrea’s first UA All-American.

The ensuing years provided more of the same – UA finished 48-19 in 1989 and 49-17 in 1990, placed third and second, respectively, in the tough Pac-10, but still came up short in WCWS play.

The bigger picture jelled in 1991 when things looked somewhat bleak as the Cats finished 11-9 and fourth in conference play – tied for his worst finish. Once in the postseason, a gutty and defensive-oriented UA team swept Arizona State in NCAA Regional play in Tempe and went on to play five games pivotal to the history of Arizona softball, at Oklahoma City in the College World Series. Candrea and the Cats earned their first national championship, beating UCLA 5-1 in the title game.

The program was off and running and Tucson became a destination for many of the best young players in the game, finishing the decade of the 1990s with 523 victories against 75 losses. Other national championships followed - 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2006 and 2007. Following each of the titles in 1994, 1996, 1997 and 2007, Candrea was named the National Fastpitch Coaches Association Division I Coach of the Year.

Candrea knows you don’t win games without players. A succession of top-level players – sluggers, hitters, dominant pitchers, Olympians – has kept Arizona at the top. For 22-consecutive years, from 1990 to 2011, at least two of Candrea’s players earned All-America honors in voting by the coaches’ association, a trend that picked back up in 2014. Four times it was six players – the only time that many players from one team were chosen. In 1994, 1995 and 1998, the six selections were all first-team All-Americans. In 1997, all five Arizona honorees were first-team players, as were the four selected in 2004.

Candrea has stressed academic success, as well, with K’Lee Arredondo (2010, first team), Autumn Champion (2006, second team), Leah O’Brien (first team, 1994, 1995 and 1997), Jenny Dalton (first team in 1996, second team in 1995) and Nancy Evans (1998) earning Academic All-America honors.

Candrea is sought out by softball and baseball coaches around the country and has delivered instructional clinics throughout the nation. He is particularly known for hitting techniques, team fielding drills and squad motivational preparation. In recent years, he has consulted with Major League Baseball stars and other learned technicians to conduct national hitting clinics, and he participates in dozens of such sessions to help improve the way softball is taught and played. He has written several books and produced a number of videotapes on various softball subjects and has designed specific practice aids and equipment that are widely used at various levels of play.

Still, just watching him work with a hitter, some balls and a batting tee show the true value of his coaching and his love of teaching. He enjoys the work, is able to communicate and uses an encouraging but firm style. His pre-game infield drill is an example. It’s a smooth, fast-paced warm up that’s done exactly the same each time.

Candrea’s style of play, public comportment and the consistent winning puts Wildcat fans in the stands at Rita Hillenbrand Memorial Stadium. The Wildcats set the NCAA record for attendance in 2011, attracting 77,129 fans over 30 home dates. The Wildcat faithful have led the country in home attendance per game in five of the last eight years and have earned the distinction nine times since the stadium’s opening in 1993.

Candrea began his softball coaching career at Central Arizona College (CAC) from 1981-85. His team won consecutive NJCAA World Series in his final two seasons, earning him national coach the year honors each time. Prior to coaching softball, he was an assistant baseball coach at Central from 1976-80. On January 18, 2009, Candrea was inducted into the inaugural CAC Hall of Fame Class.

Also a baseball player at CAC, Candrea’s playing career was cut short by an elbow injury. He earned an associate’s degree at CAC in 1975, a bachelor’s degree at Arizona State in 1978 and a master’s degree from ASU in 1980.
 

Cannonball

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Regarding fundamentals and the proper pivots at 2nd, I thought that was a part of learning the fundamentals. For my dd's team when she was 10U, all players learned the proper footwork per SS and 2B. We were still playing everyone everywhere at that time. By the time they were 12U, we had that narrowed down and the process was even better because they had the foundation. I know one young lady who was asked to play SS this past summer still remembered all of her fundamentals despite the fact she hadn't played SS in for or five years. LOL!
 

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