The Day I Threw My Glove

Still amazes me how much verbal and physical abuse parents will watch their teenage daughters endure at the hands of an adult bully (male or female). I have no problem with strength and conditioning drills. But when it crosses the line into "I'm in charge, God d%**&it, and I'll show you who's boss", that's not tough love.

I guess it all boils down to an individual player's self-esteem. The senior "captains" at DD's HS tried to pull that "I'm a senior captain, you're a freshman, you have to do what I tell you" crap...very happy to say it didn't work because DD knows who she is, what her value to the team was at the time, and wasn't about to let some spoiled senior brat haze her just because...

BuckeyeGuy said:

You are making a lot of assumptions. If you don't think Wooden had all types of players, from prima donnas to Aaron Craft-types and everything in between, you don't know much about him. But that's alright - I'll stick with a 10x NCAA champion's approach, because it's not the athletes that are the issue, it's the coaching philosophy.

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You say that but I don't have a problem with my players and I have high retention rate. Notice that the style you are endorsing is the one having an issue. Not mine. I am not talking about running the girls half to death either. It is kind of like the 10 push ups the other poster suggested. We run a lap, maybe 2, maybe we run a couple home to second sprints, or occasionally we do burpees. Nothing drastic. We even play a game at the end of practice, and the losers have to run. I accomplish 2 things, discipline and conditioning.

Easton33 said:

You say that but I don't have a problem with my players and I have high retention rate. Notice that the style you are endorsing is the one having an issue. Not mine. I am not talking about running the girls half to death either. It is kind of like the 10 push ups the other poster suggested. We run a lap, maybe 2, maybe we run a couple home to second sprints, or occasionally we do burpees. Nothing drastic. We even play a game at the end of practice, and the losers have to run. I accomplish 2 things, discipline and conditioning.

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I believe in the Wooden approach, and near as I can tell from this thread that is not what was being used by the OP, nor is it being used by you. It is not this approach that is at issue, it is the other approach, the use of physical punishment approach at issue.

Just because it works for you doesn't mean there isn't a better way. In fact, it's been shown that there is a better way.

And I do love me some Oreos!

Easton33 said:

You say that but I don't have a problem with my players and I have high retention rate. Notice that the style you are endorsing is the one having an issue. Not mine. I am not talking about running the girls half to death either. It is kind of like the 10 push ups the other poster suggested. We run a lap, maybe 2, maybe we run a couple home to second sprints, or occasionally we do burpees. Nothing drastic. We even play a game at the end of practice, and the losers have to run. I accomplish 2 things, discipline and conditioning.
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If your method works for you and your team, great. Different strokes for different folks. it is interesting, however, that the "I"s outnumber the "we"s.

SoCalASABlue said:

If your method works for you and your team, great. Different strokes for different folks. it is interesting, however, that the "I"s outnumber the "we"s.

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Would you like to have another shot at counting the I's and we's? You can actually subtract 1 (I) as it was referencing a comment made by me. Leave it to a blue not to be able to count to 4.

BuckeyeGuy said:

I believe in the Wooden approach, and near as I can tell from this thread that is not what was being used by the OP, nor is it being used by you. It is not this approach that is at issue, it is the other approach, the use of physical punishment approach at issue.

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What in my OP was harsh and drastic? The fact I threw my glove for the first time? Anyway I don't subscribe to any one way of coaching as it will only work for a percentage of your players over the course of your career. It's the same in management. You have to get to know your players, parents, home life situation. Sally who doesn't have a dad at home or in her life might need a father figure at practice that yells, while Suzy who gets yelled at all the time might need the patient coach who talks to her in a calm reassuring voice.

You assumption is correct that the wooden approach isn't being used because what works for college men who play basketball in the 1960's in California might not work in 2015 for teenage girls on the East coast.

Just because you don't like the way others do it doesn't mean there way isn't successful or correct.

Coach.. thank you for sharing. I know it can be tough some days and I believe that when Emotions go up, Intelligence goes down.
I coach, but only at a REC level. I may have run em, may have put em in a circle and have them sit on their gloves but at the end of the day we owe them the right to always leave practice feeling like they love the game the way we love it. I'm sure you did this so it's another great day of helping win hearts and minds so Kudos to you.
Girls from 10 to 19 are going through things that, as guys, we will never fully understand. "Thank GOD"
So all we can do some days is just suck it up and move on. If it drags on the next day then shame on us. We needed to address it at the beginning of the next practice and let the girls know that it will not be tolerated.