Motivating 8 to 10 year olds

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Mar 31, 2014
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Any tips?

A little backdrop. My DD has wanted to play tournament or travel ball since she was 7 or 8, she absolutely loves softball. I have coached her rec team since they were all in Teeball together and our teams have had a ton of success on the local level. Knowing my own limitations, i figured TB was out of my league so we've been waiting for someone to step up and put together a travel team so we could get her on it. By the end of her first year in 10U we realized nobody was going to do it so my coaching staff decided we would.

Now, we live in a small community, roughly 90 miles away Oklahoma City. Softball (or girls sports in general) arent a high priority here so we barely have practice facilities and most parent want to enjoy the fall freedom, rather than let their girls play. There some pretty respectable talent scattered through the rec teams and we were hoping to get 5 to 6 high caliber players to surround our girls with. It became apparent very quick that we werent going to get most of those girls as most of the interest was from the younger girls, coming from coach/machine pitch. Our biggest hurdle was simply pitching, we didnt have a pitcher show up who had thrown for more than 4 months.

Right away we knew we werent going to have a very competitive team so rather than pick up tent, we decided to go ahead and give these girls the experience and see what happens.......gotta start somewhere, right? We ended up with two teams, a 2004 team comprised of 3 2004 girls and the rest 2005. A 2005 team comprised of mostly 2006 girls. The 2004 team really had some solid talent while most of the 05 girls were very, very raw. This fall we have traveled all around the state, exposing them to 5 tournaments. As anticipated, the first couple were very rough, hard not to be when your pitchers have a strike percentage of 30%, 35% on a good day. The best thing about this was that after getting beat badly, it was the girls asking for more practice, gotta love that in them. Game by game, tournament by tournament we saw improvement. We started by playing our 2 GG and then in the next one competed in some close games, then by the 3rd tourney, each were winning a game or two (mostly against other rec level teams but still wins). Most of these tournaments have mostly A or B level teams with the occasional team like us. Its hard to win when you walk in several runs per inning but the girls were really starting to hit and the offense kept them in it. We were very pleased with the skill progression and how competitive the girls are starting to become, even though they are a long way from where they want to be and where we think they can go.

The biggest problem we are having is the girls lack of determination during those games, particularly one team (2004). When things are going well, you see some really good softball from them. As soon as one thing goes wrong, they shut down and the game is essentially over at that point. This weekend really highlighted that problem. We were in a small tournament with teams at our level. On paper, if you go down the list, my 2004 team blows my 2005 team out of the water in regards to experience and skill level at this stage of their development. Those 2005 girls have half the talent but beat the older girls twice this weekend, ultimately losing in an exciting championship game. You could see the 04 teams skill advantage plain as day but the 05 girls who made plenty of mistakes, never got down and always bounced back.

While the two teams practice together and i see them all then, i spend most of the tournaments coaching the 2005 team so i dont get to see the 2004 team as much as i did this weekend. The HC for that team is also my assistant on our rec team and his coaching style, attitude and tones are almost identical to mine. He told me that what we saw this weekend is typical of them, very little fight, very little bounce back and his exact words were "they have too much quit in them". Now, they've tried every tactic, hard coaching, soft coaching, rewards, demotions, etc...etc.... but ultimately it doesnt seem like any of it has worked.

Every one of these girls really want it, i can see it in their practice effort, i can see it in their faces after the games, but when they face a little adversity they tend to shut down. Some girls you dont have an issue with and theres no rhyme or reason to who shuts down and who doesnt (pertaining to ability or drive). We as coaches dont have unrealistic expectations. When we agreed to do this, we do it knowing it will be two or three years before we see a truly competitive team, we just want to give them the opportunity. In order for the girls to get the most of that opportunity, they have to be able to fight through adversity. That age is tough, every girl is different. Is it just dumb luck that we can get a bunch of 8 year olds to do it on the 2005 team? Why cant we seem to get that same energy and fight out of the older, better players?

Any thoughts, suggestions, ideas?
 
Nov 6, 2013
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You said it, that age is tough. Most kids (boys and girls) in 8U don't know the final score of the game they just played. Many don't know whether they won or lost. So I think it's about making practices fun for the girls while improving their very basic fundamental skills and mechanics: throwing, catching, hitting, baserunning.

GOOD LUCK!
 
May 24, 2013
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So Cal
A few observations from my experience with my 10yo DD...

Keep two primary goals: 1) Have fun, and 2) Develop into better ballpalyers. Winning is - at best - a #3 priority.

Often times, it takes just one girl with a loud voice and positive attitude in the dugout to change the attitude of the whole team. Without that cheerleader, it can be a constant battle to keep the whole team from falling down the hole of negativity and self-defeat.

This is kind of stereotypical, and there are always exceptions, but I see it pretty frequently...Boys have to play good to feel good. Girls have to feel good to play good.
 

JJsqueeze

Dad, Husband....legend
Jul 5, 2013
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Candy and Ice Cream.....simple. Bribe them with both and see how they play. An 8-10 year old will crawl across broken glass through a tunnel of flesh eating zombies for a scoop of ice cream or one of those God forsaken sour candies that they all eat. Cash is good too, since it is easily convertible into the real currency of ice cream and candy.
 
May 24, 2013
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Candy and Ice Cream.....simple. Bribe them with both and see how they play. An 8-10 year old will crawl across broken glass through a tunnel of flesh eating zombies for a scoop of ice cream or one of those God forsaken sour candies that they all eat. Cash is good too, since it is easily convertible into the real currency of ice cream and candy.

Along those lines, we have had great success with handing out "award stickers" for their helmets after each game.
 
Jan 7, 2014
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Terrific post! I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates your detail...

I lived in this age group for 5 of the last 6 years between my DD1 and DD2...I'll be back "here" in 2 years with DD3...

What a wonderful time for the girls if YOU create that type of environment! You can create a competitive team in less than 3 years too...the girls are just learning sponges at this age!

First, I want to say you are on the right track - you have the vision to see the inadequacies and are not quite sure how to deal with all of them. You are faced with the proverbial "How Do I Eat The Elephant?"

That answer is easy...1 bite at a time...

Your issue - as you describe it above - is not rooted in lack of motivation. Your girls are "turtling" to the older, better players or in your words "they face a little adversity (and) they tend to shut down." Adults do this in their jobs every day...why would it be any different for an 8-10 year old? In fact, 8-10 year olds are more resilient than some of the adults I see "turtle" at work every day :)

Teach your girls "How to COMPETE!" This is IRRELEVANT imo to hard or soft coaching....they need to start to learn some killer instinct...this can be developed and taught.

At their stage, they are accustomed to getting "participation awards." Sally Softball is a great player and Nancy Notsogood is well, not so good - yet at the end of the season they received the same award...Sally is probably saying "What the ...."

YOU and your staff NEED to let Sally know that effort and excellence matters and that excellence and effort is rewarded. I use stickers, quarters ($.25), bottles of water and even throwing water balloons at ME as a sign that excellence is rewarded. Get stickers that will last! I use these: https://www.awarddecals.com/images/view.aspx?productId=4143 and when I present the stickers I make a big deal about it! You would think I was Chris Berman awarding an ESPY when I do it LOL! LOTS of parent applause! I only award stickers 5 times a year at SPECIAL occasions. MAKE THEM FEEL SPECIAL!

OK...on to what I see as your true concern...

How do I teach them to compete? Easy - have simple competitions EVERY practice...like:

Who can stand on 1 leg the longest?
Who can helicopter the bat the furthest?
Who can knock a stuffed animal off a 5 gallon pal from 30 feet/50 feet/70 feet?
Who can get the most consecutive bunts down in fair territory in a row off the pitching machine?
Turn the pitching machine up to 50 and give awards based on any kind of contact

I'll use the bunting contest as a great example...3 of my girls got 20 bunts down consecutively....they were 9! TEACH them to COMPETE! My DD2 lost to her teamate on bunt 26...they still talk about that "contest." Oh...when we started this contest...3 was the winning number...

Some good stuff here: Teach Your Athletes How to Compete with the Missile Analogy

My last words of advice: create a plan...I don't care what the plan is but develop a plan and stick to it!

Goof Luck!

CP
 
Aug 9, 2013
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I think the big things are on here:

1. Award Stickers
2. Ice Cream
3. Pizza

Watching your demeanor is crucial too. There will come a time when they learn what it takes to win and what happens when they lose.

Another thing I do all the time is 'brush it off' - have a visual cue that they can see when something goes wrong to get them focused on the next play. Make an error - I'll stand up outside the dugout, call the player's name and encourage them to brush it off - I will often ask them to do the same. It's a nice visual and mental cue to move on from the play.

As for ages, I have a primarily 04 team now but we took our lumps last year as a first year 10U team. Celebrate the good in every game despite the final score - call out some great plays you saw.
 
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