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Advantages of joining organization
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I am very glad that we have a very good local high school program (second in the state top tier this past year) because my daughters, who were standout players on the Sophomore and Freshmen teams, can't seem to make an "A" team in the local organization. Of course, they are extreme standouts on their "B" teams as well.
The local organization is bereft of integrity and fairness and instead specializes in politics and "daddy ball". I remember when the high school HC, shocked to learn that my oldest DD was on the "B" team, asked who "beat her out" for the "A" team. When he found out he went on a long tirade about screwed up softball organizations, etc. etc.
The local organization is bereft of integrity and fairness and instead specializes in politics and "daddy ball". I remember when the high school HC, shocked to learn that my oldest DD was on the "B" team, asked who "beat her out" for the "A" team. When he found out he went on a long tirade about screwed up softball organizations, etc. etc.
You cannot lump all organizations together. Some allow the coaches of each team a lot of leeway, while other run things with an iron fist. The two biggest advantages of joining an organization are 1) Name recognition which brings players out for tryouts, 2) Recruiting - marquee organizations will have more exposure opportunities and contacts.
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This is what I was going to say...
When it comes to softball, I am finding that economies of scale and marketing are two huge aspects of being part of an organization, insurance costs, practice fields, care of those fields, etc. I would not, under any circumstances, join an org where there was collective bargaining. Never. I want control of my own finances, and this is exactly what my organization does. It allows me the latitude to have my own tryouts, pick my own uniforms (within the color schemes), and manage my own finances (I am able to secure several corporate sponsors that I do not want to share). I also get support if things get hairy with other coaches, umpires, associations, etc.
Very true. My DD has played with 3 orgs over the past 6 years and each one was different.
Some "orgs" are merely a loose confederation of independent teams, which minimizes both the benefits and drawbacks of being in an org. The benefits are typically use of the org's 501c3 status and probably better name recognition. The only drawback is you usually have to pay some sort of fee to the org.
The potential benefits for a pre-HS team and/or TB-newbie coach are mentoring from experienced coaches that have developed solid practice routines and game management skills. The founding coaches of DD's first org monitored the teams in the orgs and made themselves available to help with practices and games, especially during the HS season while their team(s) were inactive. Our '96 team took advantage of their help and did very well. The '95 and '97 teams declined their assistance and did not fare nearly as well.
The potential benefits for a college-exposure team can be great.
- The experienced coaches and parents in the org can provide valuable guidance on the whole process.
- Good to great org name recognition helps a lot when communicating with colleges and getting them to your games.
- Assistance from people in org that are in contact regularly with a number of college coaches.
- Cooperative assistance between teams in org to refer colleges to players within org that match what the college seeks. Some carry other teams' profiles and schedules with them. They'll even offer to get the player(s) to their games if the coach can't make it to the other team's games.
Not true.
The great HS Programs get recruited as well as travel programs. It is true. They go to college to play softball.
That is why the coach has so much power. He does not need travel. He IS travel also? I probably know the state, and the program, and hope the STATE has the intestinal fortitude to act.
The answer is to NOT eliminate HS Softball, for vastly more players benefit from HS softball, than travel. But to make and enforce the HS rules for travel as most all the States now do.
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Sorry, but the actual numbers and real world behavior tell a much different story.
I'm gonna have to side with riseball on this one. The claim that "vastly more players 'benefit' from HS softball than travel" is a real stretch.
You are wrong. How many female athletes play HS softball? How many female athletes play travel softball?
By these numbers, at least thy a factor of 2, there are much more HS softball players than travel softball players. probably way more than than. Who knows 3:1 ... 4:1 ... Does not matter to me. For you are presenting the argument and I know you are wrong, and I am right.
SO you will argue ... What does "benefit" mean. I mean it to benefit their life in a meaningful way. Teach them to sacrifice, to lead, to become something bigger than individually, give back to their community and if lucky, bring that town a championship.
But your meaning of "beneficial" Is vastly different than mine. Probably starts with I ... My ... I ... Want... Money ...? So if you can more precisely define what you are really saying, maybe I can explain further.
I find in life as an old man, when opposing folks present arguments quite vague, it is best to get their thoughts as to the details, before making a definitive conclusion.
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