Beware the scary 10U players filling in in 12U

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Mar 26, 2013
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When a team is playing short-handed, they have to take an out whenever the empty spot come up in the line-up.
For us (10U ASA), the lineup at the start of the game is the determining factor, not the full-season roster of the whole team. If we turn in a lineup card of 8 players before the game, then we are expected to bat 8 players for that game. The only way there's a out for a missed AB is if one of those 8 misses her turn.
Absent a local league rule, ASA's shorthanded rule (4-1D) comes into effect whenever you play a FP game with less than 9 players. If you start with 8, the 9th spot is left open and an out is recorded each time it comes up.

Our LL baseball allowed teams to bring up players if a team knew they were going to be shorthanded. I don't recall it being allowed at our local ASA league, only some games being rescheduled because one or both teams wouldn't have enough players.
 
Nov 6, 2013
771
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Baja, AZ
22 hours? Is this normal for AZ. travel teams? What age group?

Not sure whether it's "normal," but the TB org had a 12U and a 14U. HC wanted DD and a couple other 12U girls to stay through the 14U practices. And she's a pitcher, and Ps & Cs showed up and hour early each practice. So 5.5 hours/day on Tuesdays and Thursdays. When not at tournament, 4 hours BP on Saturdays and about 6 hours for scrimmage or friendly DH or 3 games on Sunday. Then there's a hitting lesson and a pitching lesson.
 
Nov 6, 2013
771
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Baja, AZ
In hindsight, I can see that my previous response was based solely on my own experience, and a bit too harsh. Our league is currently blessed with a pretty deep talent pool (especially in 10U) and we don't have situations where we are struggling to find someone - anyone - that can pitch decently. I respect those who will do whatever it takes to keep the games going in less-than-ideal situations. I can see that sometimes this might require the situations described by you and SoAZDad. My apologies.

EricF, my first post didn't provide enough info and could've easily been misconstrued to suggest DD was indeed a prima dona calling the shots. Your apology is not necessary, but I appreciate it.
 
Nov 6, 2013
771
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Baja, AZ
I, for one, am very against this. The league needs to sink or swim with the players they have. What better opportunity is there for the league to develop other pitchers? Instead, they are being lazy and using your daughter as a crutch. Our league went through this a year ago, where all the top talent in the 12u group took off to form a TB team. It forced girls like my DD to step up their game and no longer be satisfied with playing with the dandelions in the outfield. We went 3-12 in games against other leagues. But the progression made by those girls over the course of the season set them up to make a good run in all-stars that bought them a berth in the state tournament, something that star-studded group of players from the previous season that left wasn't able to accomplish.

Now, this season, several of the leagues around us are experiencing the same problems we were last year. All their talent took off for TB, and they didn't spend enough time coaching up their lower level players. And rather than try to improve what they have, at least one league is doing as your league is doing: importing TB players to help them out during the regular season. I don't get wanting to win a regular rec season game that badly that you have to import talent from TB rather than using the opportunity to get your dedicated rec ball players more experience. What makes it even worse is because of stipulations like your daughter's, this league has now canceled several games with us and other leagues because their TB talent is unavailable (because they are at practice for their TB team). Ridiculous.

I agree with you entirely, but when DD saw the opportunity to get more reps in game situations, she liked it. I did too. BTW, the league continues to do that stuff this season. DD isn't doing it this spring though.
 

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