Not if the catcher and pitcher both have the wristbands. Now it is one clear three digit sign from the dugout, one look at the band from both and pitch. Because you no longer have to hide the signs from anyone, you can go direct to the players instead of hiding signs from the dugout to the catcher and from the catcher to the pitcher.
Wrist Band Call System for Pitching
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Not if the catcher and pitcher both have the wristbands. Now it is one clear three digit sign from the dugout, one look at the band from both and pitch. Because you no longer have to hide the signs from anyone, you can go direct to the players instead of hiding signs from the dugout to the catcher and from the catcher to the pitcher.
- Dec 4, 2013
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Here we go again on this subject
If its good enough for the top levels why isn't it good enough for us?
If the top levels were recruiting players based on skill sets and this system was a skill set would you use it? IMHO if your goals is to help your players move on in this game then the top levels dictate what we teach and use at our levels.
Is the level of sb that much higher in my area? 12s that cant hit spots-you got to be kidding me. I got and face 10s that hit spots daily at the A level.
If its good enough for the top levels why isn't it good enough for us?
If the top levels were recruiting players based on skill sets and this system was a skill set would you use it? IMHO if your goals is to help your players move on in this game then the top levels dictate what we teach and use at our levels.
Is the level of sb that much higher in my area? 12s that cant hit spots-you got to be kidding me. I got and face 10s that hit spots daily at the A level.
- Apr 11, 2012
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to each their own....and understand there may be a need because of loser cheaters....but if I was a player and had to wear that big arss sweat band every game having to explain the huge white spot from the rest of my tan to everyone I would want to puke every time I had to wear it....I just don't get it....first off, you don't need a wristband to defense someone stealing signs, I coach a team and have done it...second, if I'm a hitter, I don't want coaches or parents thinking they got another teams signs figured out and barking my name, or the next genius move my number....and its pathetic if adults are doing it....but you know that dude;..."hey I figured out the 3b coach's signs...they are going to bunt"....normal sane person;...."okay..?...but its a bunt situation anyway, did you need try and be part of the game to figure that out or are you just flipping crazy?"
It's girls amateur softball....I really hope I offend some of the losers out there who call out pitches to batters, because if you do that you are a "LOSER" trying to be part of a game you ain't in....! The fact that you coaches out there feel you need a "wristband" system to defense (which again, is fine and to each their own) means its happening more and more....and is just plain sad. If it were baseball, which polices it's self, the players would getting tired of getting beaned all the time and telling the adult to shut up and stay out of it...maybe girls softball needs that, so the adult can explain to the a kid the massive "welp" they got was from an adult calling pitches and locations to a hitter from behind the plate, or centerfield, or the bull pen, or wherever.....
It's girls amateur softball....I really hope I offend some of the losers out there who call out pitches to batters, because if you do that you are a "LOSER" trying to be part of a game you ain't in....! The fact that you coaches out there feel you need a "wristband" system to defense (which again, is fine and to each their own) means its happening more and more....and is just plain sad. If it were baseball, which polices it's self, the players would getting tired of getting beaned all the time and telling the adult to shut up and stay out of it...maybe girls softball needs that, so the adult can explain to the a kid the massive "welp" they got was from an adult calling pitches and locations to a hitter from behind the plate, or centerfield, or the bull pen, or wherever.....
- Dec 4, 2013
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At the younger level I totally 100% agree with you. Yelling out pitches or location is bush league at all levels. At the college level I would say the overwhelming majority of programs pick signs, and find a discrete way to relay the information. It is part of the game. If your offensive signs are so simple, or your catcher is setting up way too early, or a coach is holding up 1 finger they deserved to be picked!
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- Apr 11, 2012
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I understand it's part of the game if your in college or playing professionally....sorta.... and I was a full scholarship baseball player and can't tell you how many times in college and in collegient summer leagues those "genius coaches" were dead wrong when they thought they figured out someone else's conventional signs and hitters telling them to "leave me alone....I will figure it out myself"....and when I was pitching just using a different set of sign each inning to guard against it and if someone on second base signaled anything to a hitter the batter got plunked....period....that's part of the game too.....coaches need to give other teams some credit that they are aware you may be trying to steal signs and those who do are NEVER 100% right....sometimes "normal coaches" bait the genius coaches too...so when they need it, the genius screws himself....in, out, up, down...then gets something totally different. I think it's funny....the erogances displayed by sign stealing.
now offensively, if you are coach who doesn't want to give signs....some wristband system does eliminate that need, just stand there and bark out three digit numbers all day long....and again to each their own....but don't kid your self....players hate wearing those giant forearm bands....
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- Feb 25, 2009
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Where were you this weekend when a chump in the stands was trying to do this for a college team? LOL! BTW, he was not kind in his remarks so when he made a comment about one certain young lady, he got my attention and I dealt with him. Big mouth wasn't so tough.
On the subject, I like them if only because HS and college are going to them. When to introduce the wristband is a great issue we can discuss. I don't know that 10U is the best but who am I to say. What we have to be careful of is making the game monotonous. As a HS coach, I used the touch system and I know for sure no one ever broke it. You want to know why? Because over half of the time, my "touch" was an indicator for the catcher to call the pitch and not me. I did the rest so that the other team's coach and players could have something to do.
So out of this long response, the only thing you can say against using the wristbands is the players don't get tan? Really great argument there.
We use them, and not sure where slowing the game down came from, it has sped up our game. Of course we just have offensive and defensive, not pitch calling (it's the catcher's job). Ours is very simple 2 digits is the play, but we call out 3 digits / it's either the first 2 digits or the last 2 digits... simple
- Feb 7, 2013
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Another post on how to dumb down the game of fastpitch, nice work OILF.
For everyone else who wants their players to play fastpitch in the 21st century, they need to get used to signs being given using a numbering system. Being old-fashioned doesn't cut it if you want to play competitively...
