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Oct 16, 2014
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I want to throw this out there to other parents and get your advice or opinions. My daughter tried out for what is known and what we thought was a select team. I by no means claim that my daughter is the best in the world but she is a great ball player. She made the team along with 8 others that tried out that day. Please keep in mind that some of this we found out as the days went by. With the 9 girls, the coach had just enough to have her team. I did question her regarding a girl because we did know her quite well and she told me she needed a body to complete her team. She said the girl wasn't near select ball material but she hoped to pick up more girls as she went along, sit the player and hope that her mother became angry enough to leave.
With a bit more time we began to realize that we had basically put my daughter on a rec ball team with the exception of her and 3 other players but we paid quite a bit of money. I wanted my daughter to play with girls to play at her level, if not better, work hard and earn her spot. Quite the opposite, She not only needed her as her bracket pitcher but used her a utility player when the other bracket was on the mound. She wasn't given much coaching because the other girls needed so much. However, the practice would not and was not benefiting her in anyway, as they were doing nothing more than a rec ball practice. we played 1 tournament in a class they should have never been in and were beat horribly in both pool and bracket.
We were concerned for a number of reasons and did speak to the manager/coach about her plans for the team, perhaps dropping them in class in order to give them more time to learn as a team etc. Immediately, we were cursed out by her spouse in which he stated that, anyone who doesn't like the way the do things can get their f** s** and get the f** out of there.
We did just that, we are on a wonderful team with an amazing coach. My daughter loves the challenge and the competitiveness. She is again in a bracket pitcher position and is a utility player as well.
I really believe that I should get my commitment fee back for a number of reasons. This coach knew she had a few good players, but she really wanted a select team. Although she did not have select talent show up at her try out, she offered them a position. We never received any of our uniforms, bags, helmets etc. She has played other tournaments and again not only do they lose, these poor girls get hammered so bad. What does that do to morale and confidence? This game is certainly not all about winning, its about so much more. But I know this, its not about losing, low confidence, girls who are so beaten down they don't even want to play and parents and coaches who are angry. Imagine that atmosphere!
We have a stack of papers about parent and player obligations, but what about the coaches/ leagues obligations? She was obligated to put together a competitive team and she failed us. She should have chosen select player material and held out for the others to come along, picking up players as she went along. if need be, she could have also waited until next season when she was presented with talent, This was a selfish move on her part, just so that she could say she had a select team. It was also deceitful, not only to us parents who have girls who really are at that level but to the girls who she talks about behind their backs and says their horrible players. She should not be a coach! Yes I have been to the board and I'm trying to get this resolved. We were only with that team for 6 weeks and it was 6 weeks too long. Thanks for reading, I know its long and this is only half of it!!
 
Dec 5, 2012
4,143
63
Mid West
Every new team will go through some growing pains, and will usually loose more than they win at first. So the getting beat up part isn't what concerns me. Its the fact that you where 6 weeks in without uniforms.... plus the classlessness of the coaches husband. You are well within your rights to ask for a refund, but experience tells me you won't see a nickel of it back.
Teams do need warm bodies....rec teams
If your dd is serious about playing at a higher level, and is looking for a challenge, don't go to a new team. Find a well established program with happy parents.
You also made a concerning comment about your dd "having" to play the field (utility player) in addition to her pitching. Why on earth is that a problem for an unestablished player?(one who is not yet a well known tb player).
 

Slappers

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Sep 13, 2013
417
0
Dumfries, VA
It took 9 weeks for my uniforms to come in. They look fantastic though. If you ordered sublimated jerseys through Russell Athletic, all I can say is good luck. Not that this is the point of your post.

I wouldn't give you a full refund because the team did have to pay for fields, tourneys, insurance etc. but you should at least get some of it back and the gear you paid for.

Coaches hubbie needs a reality check.

Also agree with coach james and OILF minus the uniform thing lol.
 
Sep 24, 2013
696
0
Midwest
When there weren't enough kids-flag #1
When a coach tells anything about a player to another parent flag #2
When a coach says hell bench a player until they quit flag #3

This was all day 1. I wouldn't have been around for the day 2 an d beyond flags mentioned.

VERY unprofessional.
 
Jun 27, 2011
5,089
0
North Carolina
She said the girl wasn't near select ball material but she hoped to pick up more girls as she went along, sit the player and hope that her mother became angry enough to leave.

She warned you that she was a jerk right here.

But I agree w/ everyone else. You deserve some money back, but probably won't get it.

Sorry this has to be one of your earliest experiences w/ travel ball. It will get better.
 
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May 25, 2010
1,070
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I want to throw this out there to other parents and get your advice or opinions. My daughter tried out for what is known and what we thought was a select team. I by no means claim that my daughter is the best in the world but she is a great ball player. She made the team along with 8 others that tried out that day. Please keep in mind that some of this we found out as the days went by. With the 9 girls, the coach had just enough to have her team. I did question her regarding a girl because we did know her quite well and she told me she needed a body to complete her team. She said the girl wasn't near select ball material but she hoped to pick up more girls as she went along, sit the player and hope that her mother became angry enough to leave.
With a bit more time we began to realize that we had basically put my daughter on a rec ball team with the exception of her and 3 other players but we paid quite a bit of money. I wanted my daughter to play with girls to play at her level, if not better, work hard and earn her spot. Quite the opposite, She not only needed her as her bracket pitcher but used her a utility player when the other bracket was on the mound. She wasn't given much coaching because the other girls needed so much. However, the practice would not and was not benefiting her in anyway, as they were doing nothing more than a rec ball practice. we played 1 tournament in a class they should have never been in and were beat horribly in both pool and bracket.
We were concerned for a number of reasons and did speak to the manager/coach about her plans for the team, perhaps dropping them in class in order to give them more time to learn as a team etc. Immediately, we were cursed out by her spouse in which he stated that, anyone who doesn't like the way the do things can get their f** s** and get the f** out of there.
We did just that, we are on a wonderful team with an amazing coach. My daughter loves the challenge and the competitiveness. She is again in a bracket pitcher position and is a utility player as well.
I really believe that I should get my commitment fee back for a number of reasons. This coach knew she had a few good players, but she really wanted a select team. Although she did not have select talent show up at her try out, she offered them a position. We never received any of our uniforms, bags, helmets etc. She has played other tournaments and again not only do they lose, these poor girls get hammered so bad. What does that do to morale and confidence? This game is certainly not all about winning, its about so much more. But I know this, its not about losing, low confidence, girls who are so beaten down they don't even want to play and parents and coaches who are angry. Imagine that atmosphere!
We have a stack of papers about parent and player obligations, but what about the coaches/ leagues obligations? She was obligated to put together a competitive team and she failed us. She should have chosen select player material and held out for the others to come along, picking up players as she went along. if need be, she could have also waited until next season when she was presented with talent, This was a selfish move on her part, just so that she could say she had a select team. It was also deceitful, not only to us parents who have girls who really are at that level but to the girls who she talks about behind their backs and says their horrible players. She should not be a coach! Yes I have been to the board and I'm trying to get this resolved. We were only with that team for 6 weeks and it was 6 weeks too long. Thanks for reading, I know its long and this is only half of it!!

How much money did you lose?
 
Aug 12, 2014
647
43
Yes, you should get some of your money back, particularly for the uniforms and equipment you never received. If the club refuses, you can file in small claims court if you want to push it. But even if you win the case, it can be difficult to collect.
 
Aug 29, 2011
2,584
83
NorCal
Unless you paid a full year's fees upfront ask for the uniform cost back and count the rest a sunk costs and an expensive lesson.
 
Nov 6, 2013
771
16
Baja, AZ
Unless you paid a full year's fees upfront ask for the uniform cost back and count the rest a sunk costs and an expensive lesson.

^^^I'm with Sweet Lou.

Was in a similar situation a while back. Just a reminder though, be diplomatic and don't burn bridges if you can help it. The softball world is big, but the community is not.

GOOD LUCK.
 
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Oct 16, 2014
5
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Im sorry, maybe you took some of my comments out of context. We didn't go to a "new" team, I just meant another team but new for us. And I didn't mean to make it sound as though I wasn't happy with her pitching bracket and playing utility on either team. I think its great and she loves it! I was just trying to give some facts, guess it came out wrong.
 

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